Digest 47

This digest contains the following messages:

1. RE: Bouncing Emails
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
2. Dec. 22 gathering
by: lfrancis <louise.francis@comcast.net>
3. Re: Dec. 22 gathering
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
4. RE: Dec. 22 gathering
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
5. Re: Dec. 22 gathering
by: <jmshillinglaw@aol.com>
6. RE: Bouncing Emails
by: Wick Rudd <rrudd@siginvest.com>
7. RE: Bouncing Emails
by: Carpenter, Robert <robert.carpenter@credit-suisse.com>
8. RE: Dec. 22 gathering
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
9. RE: RE: Dec. 22 gathering
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
10. RE: RE: Dec. 22 gathering
by: Wayne Anthony <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
11. [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
12. RE: Too many parties!
by: Wayne Anthony <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
13. Mark Feaster's Photography
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
14. Re: [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
15. RE: [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.
by: lfrancis <louise.francis@comcast.net>
16. Re: Too many parties!
by: Pat S <psinatra@comcast.net>
17. Re: Too many parties!
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
18. Re: Dec. 22 gathering
by: <Sselklub@aol.com>
19.
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
20. Re: (no subject)
by: <JEBWILK@aol.com>
21. RE: (no subject)
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
22. Happy New Yeqr
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
23. sad news
by: <WJK1957@aol.com>
24. Re: sad news
by: <lkaiser@americanyc.com>
25. Re: sad news
by: <jmshillinglaw@aol.com>
26. Re: sad news
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
27. Re: sad news
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
28. Re: sad news
by: <NYCFD1@aol.com>
29. RE: sad news
by: Wick Rudd <rrudd@siginvest.com>
30. Re: sad news
by: <JaneGaughran@aol.com>
31. Re: sad news
by: <faheyfam@optonline.net>
32. Re: sad news
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
33. RE: sad news
by: Wick Rudd <rrudd@siginvest.com>
34. RE: sad news
by: Mckirgan, Irene <irene.mckirgan@Vanderbilt.Edu>
35. Re: sad news
by: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
36. Officially 50
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
37. RE: Officially 50
by: Wayne Anthony <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
38. Re: Officially 50
by: <jmshillinglaw@aol.com>
39. Re: Officially 50
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
40. Re: Officially 50
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
41. Re: Officially 50
by: <faheyfam@optonline.net>
42. Re: Officially 50
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
43. Re: Officially 50
by: Lynn Harbin <lharbin@swbell.net>
44. Re: Officially 50
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
45. Turning 50
by: <Sselklub@aol.com>
46. RE: Turning 50
by: Keith Kelley <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
47. Only a week?
by: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
48. Re: Only a week?
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
49. Re: Turning 50
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
50. RE: Only a week?
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
51. Re: Only a week?
by: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
52. Re: Officially 50
by: Nicole Cirrincione <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
53. Re: Re: Officially 50
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
54. Re: Officially 50
by: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
55. Traveling to Boston
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
56. Re: Officially 50
by: Keith Kelley <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
57. Re: Re: Officially 50
by: Nicole Cirrincione <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
58. Re: Officially 50
by: <JEBWILK@aol.com>
59. Re: Officially 50
by: Nicole Cirrincione <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
60. Re: Re: Officially 50
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
61. Then and now
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
62. Age 50 +health...
by: <PeterJHazou@aol.com>
63. health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
64. Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: Laurel Parker <lkp5@cornell.edu>
65. RE: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
66. Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: Joanne <hackenburg2003@verizon.net>
67. Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
68. Re: Re: Officially 50
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
69. Re: Age 50 +health...
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
70. Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
71. RE: Age 50 +health...
by: Keith Kelley <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
72. Stop this poop, now
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
73. Another Topic
by: <faheyfam@optonline.net>
74. Re: Another Topic
by: Laurel Parker <lkp5@cornell.edu>
75. Re: Another Topic
by: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
76. RE: Another Topic
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
77. Stunning pictures http://thefairest.info/top.html
by: Patricia Sinatra <psinatra@comcast.net>
78. Re: Stunning pictures http://thefairest.info/top.html
by: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
79. Re: Age 50 +health...
by: Joanne <hackenburg2003@verizon.net>
80. Re: Age 50. Q: what is the perfect gift for a 50 year old?
by: <Sselklub@aol.com>
81. Re: Age 50 +health...
by: <dmcquickly@comcast.net>
82. sad news
by: <WJK1957@aol.com>
83. One of our parents on ABC Action News!
by: <afine@art-cetera.com>
84. Remembering the UFW boycott
by: lfrancis <louise.francis@comcast.net>
85. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
86. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: <faheyfam@optonline.net>
87. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
88. (no subject)
by: <NYCFD1@aol.com>
89. Re: (no subject)
by: <valcivitanogill@optonline.net>
90. Re: (no subject)
by: <SAPSAM75@aol.com>
91. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: Earle MacHardy <uggman@gmail.com>
92. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: Earle MacHardy <uggman@gmail.com>
93. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: <dave.walters@comcast.net>
94. RE: (no subject)
by: O'Mara, Karen \(US\) <Karen.OMara@PoloRalphLauren.com>
95. Re: RE: (no subject)
by: <faheyfam@optonline.net>
96. Re: Remembering the UFW boycott
by: Earle MacHardy <uggman@gmail.com>
97. RE: (no subject)
by: Nicole Cirrincione <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
98. Re: (no subject)
by: <NYCFD1@aol.com>
99. Re: (no subject)
by: Nicole Cirrincione <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>

-------------------- 1 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:35:07 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Bouncing Emails

WICK Rudd? What is this, Wicky? When did you get too old to be the WickEE we know and love?

Hastings Alumni Email Forum <hastings@art-cetera.com> wrote: From the HASTINGS CLASS OF '75
(also including teachers and other classes)
EMAIL BULLETIN BOARD
www.art-cetera.com/hastings
---------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 08:25:27 -0500
From: "Wick Rudd"
Subject: RE: Bouncing Emails

Alan:

I'm now at wickrudd@eastonspointcapital.com. I've moved cross town, same
business, different team; kind of like being traded from the Mets to the
Yankees. I know Willy the K. spoke to Larry recently. Let's get him on the
case. Great stuff Alan!

Wick

-------------------- 2 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 09:42:52 -0800
From: "lfrancis" <louise.francis@comcast.net>
Subject: Dec. 22 gathering

Hi all,
I'll be in the HoH area Friday night, December 22. I plan to be at
Maud's at 8 pm. Jan Sidebotham and Alan Fine have promised to join me.
I'll strong-arm my brother Paul too I hope.
Sue -- sorry I can't make it Saturday night; it would have been nice to
get up there when you could make it also. I tried; but it's looking like
Sat. night is for family stuff. Perhaps others who are around Sat. but
not Friday can put something together.
Looking forward to seeing whoever decides to drop in for my last HoH
drink before turning 50.
Happy Holidays to all from me and my family,
Louise Francis

-------------------- 3 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:10:44 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Dec. 22 gathering

do i have time to get a facelift?

-------------------- 4 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 10:21:54 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Dec. 22 gathering

Jan

No, you don't have enough time for a lift, actually--unless you want to look
like you took a beating (literally.) Takes at least 2 weeks to recover.

And no, I haven't had one--yet.

-------------------- 5 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:02:34 -0500
From: jmshillinglaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dec. 22 gathering

Louise, Alan, Jan et al.

Friday, Dec. 22 at Maud's I can make...but then it's off to Florida to see my folks for Christmas. See you then.

Jamie

-------------------- 6 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:18:31 -0500
From: "Wick Rudd" <rrudd@siginvest.com>
Subject: RE: Bouncing Emails

Probably sometime after college. At least I kept the 'W'. No NASCAR
superstardom for me!

-------------------- 7 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:52:59 -0500
From: "Carpenter, Robert" <robert.carpenter@credit-suisse.com>
Subject: RE: Bouncing Emails

Whats in a name
Regards for the holiday season

Chip

Aka Robert Carpenter

-------------------- 8 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 14:38:20 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Dec. 22 gathering

Looks like I'll miss you guys. Have fun

-------------------- 9 --------------------
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 22:15:11 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: RE: Dec. 22 gathering

Sigh. "Alone again....naturally." ;)
What a pathetic song.

-------------------- 10 --------------------
Date: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 09:09:14 -0500
From: "Wayne Anthony" <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
Subject: RE: RE: Dec. 22 gathering

Friday 12/15

Where and when?

Sincerely,
Wayne T. Anthony, CDP
Senior Systems Analyst
G & Z Systems, Inc.
22 Saw Mill River Rd.
Hawthorne, NY 10532
wayne@g-and-z.com
(914) 345-5600

-------------------- 11 --------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 7:15:17 -0500
Subject: [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.

Date: 2006/12/15 Fri AM 04:44:09 EST
To: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.com

Hi Alan and others....I might be in town from Fri. the 22nd through Sun the 24th...not sure....would love to see people...unfortunately was unable to make it to 30th reunion...i'm delighted people are organizing around the holidays...a special hello to Jan and to Louise and Amy....would love to see you!....happy to see others as well, but those three are good friends!---Jill Padawer.

p.s. my contact info has changed (e-mail the same)
Jill A. Padawer
rosewood consulting
> 130 Hillside Road
Watertown, MA 02472
(617)835-9949 (cell/work)

-------------------- 12 --------------------
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2006 17:49:48 -0500
From: "Wayne Anthony" <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
Subject: RE: Too many parties!

Well, I'll drop in to Maud's at the usual HHS time - 8:00pm, to see if
anyone shows up. We can always meet there and reconvene elsewhere.

Sincerely,
Wayne T. Anthony, CDP
Senior Systems Analyst
G & Z Systems, Inc.
22 Saw Mill River Rd.
Hawthorne, NY 10532
wayne@g-and-z.com
(914) 345-5600

-------------------- 13 --------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 12:54:34 -0500
From: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: Mark Feaster's Photography

For those of you far from Hastings and NY, or even for those here, when you get the chance, please visit our site and see the three gorgeous pictures of Hastings and Manhattan that Mark Feaster donated to the site from his work.

Teri and I have the Palisades one framed and hanging on our wall at home. (A massive blowup of that print is also in the lobby of our building.)

These photos are worth checking out.

Alan

-------------------- 14 --------------------
Date: Sat, 16 Dec 2006 15:06:45 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.

jill -- i keep trying to write you at the rosewoodconsulting addres and it bounces back . . .

-------------------- 15 --------------------
Date: Sun, 17 Dec 2006 14:40:25 -0800
From: "lfrancis" <louise.francis@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: [Fwd: 12/06 holiday availability---Jill Padawer...rosewoodconsulting@mindspring.

I've had the same problem -- so pardon my group email to Jill as well.
-Louise

Jill,
It is so great to hear from you. It would be so great to see you when we
are all back. If you can come to Maud's on Friday 12/22 at 8, I'll be
there. If not, let's talk when we're both in NY at least. My cell is 510
334 9211. Love, Louise

-------------------- 16 --------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 16:59:26 +0000
From: psinatra@comcast.net (Pat S)
Subject: Re: Too many parties!

Sorry I didn't get this out sooner, Alan. For those coming to visit, the weather here has been unseasonably warm. I feel like I am in CA (it's actually cooler there.) I am not sure I wish for the weather to hold out for you--it doesn't feel like a New York Xmas, but if you are traveling from one of those nasty cold regions of the U.S., it may be a welcome break.

I am having lunch with Mike Eckelman today in Mahopac area. I haven't seen him in many, many years and am looking forward to it. Unfortunately, I did not bring a camera.

Have fun at Maud's!
Pat

--
psinatra@comcast.net
650 274 7488 cell

-------------------- 17 --------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 10:01:42 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Too many parties!

we'll miss you, pat

-------------------- 18 --------------------
Date: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 21:24:22 EST
From: Sselklub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Dec. 22 gathering

Boy, am I behind on emails.
12/15 was the first night of Chanukah, & we actually spent it at my dad's.
Sue

-------------------- 19 --------------------
Date: Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:23:49 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject:

Hi Everyone-

If anyone is interested in getting in touch with Mike Eckelman, his =
email address is : meckelman@hvc.rr.com. Wicky=E2=80=94he mentioned he =
would love to hear from you (I gave him our website information). He =
asked about Jamie Shillinglaw, Larry Kaiser, Milke Schmais, ---the track =
and field guys, and of course, we did discuss other various tales.

=20

Do you folks remember when Mike, Julie Blasberg, and I played guitar and =
sang in front of the class? I remember him singing =E2=80=9CHurdy Gurdy =
Man=E2=80=9D, and I sang =E2=80=9CAs Tears Go By=E2=80=9D. Jules, what =
did you sing, or is my memory swiss cheese?

=20

Happy Holidays,

=20

Pat

=20

patricia sinatra =E2=97=98 650.274.7488 (c) =E2=97=98 650.347.9488 =
=E2=97=98 <mailto:psinatra@comcast.net> psinatra@comcast.net

=20

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may contain confidential and privileged information. Any unauthorized =
review, use, disclosure or distribution is prohibited. If you are not =
the intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply email and =
destroy all copies. Thank you.

=20

-------------------- 20 --------------------
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 23:54:16 EST
From: JEBWILK@aol.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Merry Christmas everyone!

Pat-
I remember Eckelman singing If I Were A Carpenter. I think I did Let It Be
and 500 Miles and Abbe and I did Changes. I don't remember what other songs
Abbe did.
See ya-
Julie

-------------------- 21 --------------------
Date: Sun, 24 Dec 2006 21:45:40 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: (no subject)

I forgot that Abbe also played with us. He definitely did Hurdy Gurdy Man
in addition to If I Were A Carpenter. I also can't remember if we played
together or if we each took turns. I guess it really doesn't matter anyway
it was so long ago.

-------------------- 22 --------------------
Date: Mon, 01 Jan 2007 00:05:41 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Happy New Yeqr

Happy New Year to everyone! I'm spending it with my brother Jeff and his family outside of Chicago (they won't let us inside the city limits, so...)

May 2007 bring you happiness and fulfillment--and a really good streudel--and I can't wait to see all you 50-year-olds next summer!

Greg

-------------------- 23 --------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:29:40 EST
From: WJK1957@aol.com
Subject: sad news

Our classmate and friend Wicky Rudd lost his father , Roger Rudd, after a
brief illness, yesterday. Sorry for your loss bro. regards Billy K.

-------------------- 24 --------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 10:47:00 -0500
From: <lkaiser@americanyc.com>
Subject: Re: sad news

Billy K,
I am in Palm Beach for the week and due to see Ben this eve, I will pass along.
Wick, my thoughts and prayers to all. I will track you down when I return.
Larry

-------------------- 25 --------------------
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 10:51:11 -0500
From: jmshillinglaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: sad news

My sympathies to the entire Rudd family. We're all getting to an age when this will be happening all too frequently to our parents, if it hasn't already, but that certainly doesn't make it any better.

Jamie

-------------------- 26 --------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 11:06:13 -0500
From: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: Re: sad news

Where and when... If I can be there, I will.

Alan

-------------------- 27 --------------------
Date: Mon, 08 Jan 2007 17:18:46 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: sad news

True enough, Jamie. And my sympathies as well to Wick and his family.

Greg

-------------------- 28 --------------------
Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 19:44:14 EST
From: NYCFD1@aol.com
Subject: Re: sad news

Dear Wicky,

Our thoughts and prayers go out to you and your family

ray and mary jane

-------------------- 29 --------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 08:08:41 -0500
From: "Wick Rudd" <rrudd@siginvest.com>
Subject: RE: sad news

Thank you all for your kind sentiments. Indeed Jamie and Greg, this is a
time in all of our lives when we will be grappling with the deaths of our
parents. The best that can be said of my father is that he was, like
probably all our parents, a good and decent person...and that is a lot.

Wick

-------------------- 30 --------------------
Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2007 09:21:04 EST
From: JaneGaughran@aol.com
Subject: Re: sad news

Wick -

Probably most of us would be very happy if we're remembered as kind and
decent. If anything, that's a better goal than most I can think of.

My dad has Alzheimer's, and we're watching him disappear very very slowly.

This mid life thing is tougher than I expected. I hope hearing others'
expressions of support and sympathy helps a little. jane

-------------------- 31 --------------------
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 14:38:54 +0000 (GMT)
From: faheyfam@optonline.net
Subject: Re: sad news

Wick-
I'm very sorry to hear about your father. I will always remember your family sponsoring fresh air children in our neighborhood (I believe the children lived in NYC and came to spend some time in Hastings during the summertime). What a wonderful program your family supported, indeed a great tribute to your father as a kind and decent man.

May God comfort you in this difficult time.

Anne (Kapfer) Fahey

-------------------- 32 --------------------
Date: Tue, 09 Jan 2007 23:13:14 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: sad news

Yes, Jane and Wick are right...we're at that age and it can be depressing, but also celebratory of our parents lives. We recently move Sylvia, my mom, to an assisted living apartment in Poughkeepsie, because of the onset of first stage Alzheimers. This resulted in 'parent shock'...not having our parent(s) at home anymore, plus, it severed my last familiar relation with Hastings, something both my brother and sister felt when we moved her.

Wicky, I met your dad only few times but I remember this: "What a COOL dad! building a treehouse for his family that was big enough to sleep his WHOLE family!!!. What a dad!"

David

-------------------- 33 --------------------
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 13:07:08 -0500
From: "Wick Rudd" <rrudd@siginvest.com>
Subject: RE: sad news

Jane, David and Anne:

Thank you all for your kind words. Jane and David, my thoughts are with you
as you deal with your respective parents' twilight struggle. BTW Anne, I
think you were referring to Darryl Woods, who stayed with us over a couple
of summers. He is still in touch with us. He had a career in the Army,
retiring as a Master Sergeant. It was sort of an exchange program. I spent
a few weekends with him and his mother in the NY City projects. Quite an
interesting experience!

Best,

Wicky

-------------------- 34 --------------------
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 12:39:24 -0600
From: "Mckirgan, Irene" <irene.mckirgan@Vanderbilt.Edu>
Subject: RE: sad news

Dear Wicky,
So sorry to hear about your dad. My thoughts are with you.

I hope to see you this summer???
Irene

Irene McKirgan, CHES, BS
Administrative Manager
Ph.D. and Postdoctoral Programs in Nursing Science
Vanderbilt University Medical Center
603C Godchaux Hall
461 21st Avenue South
Nashville, TN 37240

(615) 322-7410
(615) 343-7505 (Fax)
Visit our Web site at:
www.mc.vanderbilt.edu/nursing

Internal Address
School of Nursing
603 Godchaux Hall (8411)

-------------------- 35 --------------------
Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2007 14:12:07 -0500
From: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
Subject: Re: sad news

Dear Wicky,

Sorry about the loss of your dad. Even though I never met him we did
speak about him when we met up in Newport so, I am glad I was able to
make a connection.

Your father, like mine and my neighbors and friends fathers are from
that larger than life, "Greatest Generation". We are all products of
that generation and I am damn proud of it. I hope we can achieve what
they did.

Sincerely,

Jim K

PS Our mothers also!

-------------------- 36 --------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 15:04:46 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Officially 50

Yesterday was my 50th. How many others of us now officially qualify for both AARP and the 50th Birthday Party (date to be determined)?

Greg
enjoying (?) the first day of his 51st year.

-------------------- 37 --------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 10:18:22 -0500
From: "Wayne Anthony" <Wayne@g-and-z.com>
Subject: RE: Officially 50

Happy Birthday, Greg!

I have a few months to go. My birthday is not until July.

Sincerely,
Wayne T. Anthony, CDP
Senior Systems Analyst
G & Z Systems, Inc.
22 Saw Mill River Rd.
Hawthorne, NY 10532
wayne@g-and-z.com
(914) 345-5600

-------------------- 38 --------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 11:51:53 -0500
From: jmshillinglaw@aol.com
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Greg,

Happy 5-0 big guy! I think about 38 years ago we celebrated by watching the Minnesota Vikings in the Super Bowl at your house on Circle Drive.....now that was a very long time ago! All the best and talk to you soon!

Jamie

-------------------- 39 --------------------
Date: Wed, 17 Jan 2007 17:34:39 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Thanks Jamie--yes, that Super Bowl (I think Dolphins/Cowboys?) was the only one that ever fell on my birthday. That was a really fun party, one of my favorites.

Remember going to Yankee Stadium, I think your dad drove us, taking the subway, way back then to watch the Giants? That WAS a long time ago! I think Tarkenton was quarterback for the Jints then!

Greg

-------------------- 40 --------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 02:28:55 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Me, as previously stated!

David Walters

-------------------- 41 --------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 13:28:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: faheyfam@optonline.net
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Happy Birthday Greg & Dave, and anyone I've missed. Don't worry, the rest of us aren't far behind! Let's think of it as new beginning, that's how I'm trying to cope!

Anne Kapfer Fahey

-------------------- 42 --------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:05:08 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Officially 50

A new beginning. I like that idea, Anne!

Thanks for the well wishes, everyone.

Greg

-------------------- 43 --------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 09:42:51 -0600
From: Lynn Harbin <lharbin@swbell.net>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

When we were in high school, I hated being the second youngest person in
the grade. (I think Yasmine is younger than I am.) Last one of my
friends to drive, etc. Now, I am thrilled to tell you all that I just
celebrated my 49th birthday in December, so I have almost a year to go!
Lynn
P.S. Best wishes to all you oldsters!

-------------------- 44 --------------------
Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2007 07:55:05 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

I don't know what you guys are talking about.. do the arithmetic! We were all born in '67, our mothers listening to Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young while were in the womb... that makes us forty . . . that's why Stephen Callahan wrote "helpless helpless helpless" all over the middleschool walls.

-------------------- 45 --------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 15:57:40 EST
From: Sselklub@aol.com
Subject: Turning 50

Hi everyone. My b-day was 1/3, & we celebrated for a week!!! 3 dinners, 2
broadway shows, (I did not even go to work on 1/3), spinning class in the
morning, & jewelry.
The best was that both my kids were home from College & I spent it w/ them.
Lynn - Yasmine was born like Feb. 1, 1958, so she may be the youngest in our
class.
However, Keith probably skipped many grades, & I believe was born in Oct.??
but since he graduated from Hackley, he doesn't count. Except on COUNTDOWN!

Sue

-------------------- 46 --------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 16:36:57 -0500
From: "Keith Kelley" <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Turning 50

My recollection too is that Yasmine is the youngest but not by much. My
birthday is Jan. 30 1958. Happy Birthday to all you 50 year olds!
Laura

-------------------- 47 --------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 14:14:58 -0800 (PST)
From: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
Subject: Only a week?

No, no - you're 50 for a whole year - keep the celebrations going. I turned 50 last June - I started with a weekend with my husband at a fancy B&B in May because there was too much going on in June. Then there was the dinner with friends, the family party, some lunches, and I'm winding up the celebration going to the Bahamas for 10 days in May. We did that for my husband's 50th and when I said it was too bad we couldn't go again for mine because he'd run out of vacation days last summer, he pointed out I'd be 50 all year, so we scheduled for this May. (is that a run-on sentance? fits with the theme of a run-on birthday)

Welcome to middle age<grin>
Alison Krafft Rempel '74

-------------------- 48 --------------------
Date: Sun, 21 Jan 2007 22:29:03 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Only a week?

Alison, you are old than me! I thought I was the oldest...guess not!

David Walters

-------------------- 49 --------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:39:46 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Turning 50

I forgot that Sue's birthday was two weeks before mine! Happy birthday, you hardly look 30!

Greg

-------------------- 50 --------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 07:47:18 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Only a week?

There been WAY too many AARP commercials on TV recently ----or am I just
getting paranoid?

-------------------- 51 --------------------
Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:37:53 -0800 (PST)
From: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Only a week?

Don't worry Dave, I'm a ringer. I'm from the class before you, but I love to lurk here:)
Alison

-------------------- 52 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 11:45:39 +0000
From: "Nicole Cirrincione" <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Does anyone want to get together and do a murder mystery? Check out this
web site. We could rent space from some place in Hastings and have a ball.
I planned one once before and it was so much fun. It would be a great way
for all of us to celebrate our 50th together. Here is the web site.
http://www.dinnerandamurder.com/store/home.php?cat=249

You can add extra characters.

Nicole

-------------------- 53 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 8:12:15 -0500
From: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Officially 50

I know Dave V. and I love mysteries. (He and I read a lot in high school.) My wife, Teri, reads them exclusively now. But then, to actually get to BE in one. We'd be the characters, right? We read a description of who we are and play our parts? One of us secretly is the murderer? And it is set up in such a way that there are clues?... If so, I'd be interested.

Tell us more please. Is a house best? Or would a hall be better? Would we order the script and would you be willing to direct us? How do you envision it working?

Alan

-------------------- 54 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 08:56:14 -0500
From: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

I volunteer as the Mad Scientist.

Jim K

-------------------- 55 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 07:52:38 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: Traveling to Boston

Just a quick change of subject and a favor to ask---I am going to be in
Boston from May 5 - 9th for business and am interested in staying somewhere
inexpensive--like a BnB.

Does anyone know of a place they could recommend that is in the South
End/Back Bay area--somewhere close to a rail line that would take me
directly to the Boston Exhibition Center?

Thanks very much,

Pat

-------------------- 56 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 12:48:21 -0500
From: "Keith Kelley" <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

What a great idea. That does sound like a lot of fun. I would definitely be
interested.

-------------------- 57 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 20:34:55 +0000
From: "Nicole Cirrincione" <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Officially 50

Hi Alan -- Take a look at the web site that I included in the email. The
best murder mystery for us would either be Class of 57 or A Killer reunion.
I bought one of these last year. The lady that writes these murder
mysteries, tweaks them if needed. She is also on call (even in the middle
of the party) if there is a problem. My murder mystery was great. It was
for the twins 12th birthday last year. But it was a teen version and a
different mystery. It was so much fun, that I wanted to host one in my
neighborhood, but never got around to it. I ended up rented space from a
church on a Saturday evening. Trust me, they are a blast. All the
character packets can now be downloaded from the website and it is
inexpensive. I had a blast. The web site also has listserves, suggestions,
ideas, you name it. Lots of fun.

The website is http://www.dinnerandamurder.com/
The biggest problem we would have is accomodating all of our HS pals with
character parts. But the good thing is that I bet the writer would write in
a few additional guests. Of course, it depends upon how many of us are
interested.

Give me your feedback once you look at the URL.

Nicole

-------------------- 58 --------------------
Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2007 16:46:35 EST
From: JEBWILK@aol.com
Subject: Re: Officially 50

Hi all-

I think that sounds like fun and not to harp on WHEN we might be thinking
about having this get together, but ...
any idea when we might be having this get together?
The earlier we know the date the lower the air fares and hotels, etc. we
out-of-towners can arrange. I'd be traveling with 5 people and it really makes
a difference as to whether I am even able to come. (Not that it's all about
me, but others may need to make plans ahead too?)
Any suggestions?

-Julie

-------------------- 59 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 01:16:46 +0000
From: "Nicole Cirrincione" <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Officially 50

I would think sometime in the summer just before school starts. Or perhaps,
Sept. Oct, after the kids are back in school. Any other suggestions?

Nicole

-------------------- 60 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 8:03:39 -0500
From: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Officially 50

Speaking up for the teachers who voiced their opinion, we really can't do this during the school year. Because of this, they will unfortunately miss the annual alumni fundraising party Jeff Edelman's throwing on June 2nd.

Per Jeff: "We are going to have some kind of alumni party on Saturday night June 2. It might be a couple of months before we even decide the details. But there is going to be SOMETHING for all HHS alumni that night. So no matter what you guys want to do for your 50th, I hope that at least some of the locals from your class will come to this event."

Jeff's events are really great, so I'll try to attend that one. But in my opinion, this idea would have the best attendance in the summer. I also think it should be ONE of the events of the "birthday" weekend, since we really need a birthday party too, where we can be ourselves and not characters in a play... (Hmmm... is that even POSSIBLE?) :)

Any other opinions?

-------------------- 61 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:05:12 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: Then and now

To imminent AARP members and others that have crossed the line. I =
thought many of us would find this rather amusing. I hope you =
don=E2=80=99t mind that I am sending it to the group web site.

=20

Here we go=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6.=20

First, we survived being born to mothers who smoked and/or drank while =
they carried us.

They took aspirin, ate blue cheese dressing, tuna from a tin, and didn't =
get tested for diabetes.=20

Then after that trauma, our baby cots were covered with bright colored =
lead-based paints.=20

We had no childproof lids on medicine bottles, doors or cabinets and =
when we rode our bikes, we had no helmets, not to mention, the risks we =
took hitchhiking.

As children, we would ride in cars with no seat belts or air bags.=20

Riding in the back of a van - loose - was always great fun.=20

We drank water from the garden hosepipe and NOT from a bottle.=20

We shared one soft drink with four friends, from one bottle and NO ONE =
actually died from this.=20

We ate cakes, white bread and real butter and drank pop with sugar in =
it, but we weren't overweight because...... WE WERE ALWAYS OUTSIDE =
PLAYING!!=20

We would leave home in the morning and play all day, as long as we were =
back when the streetlights came on.=20

No one was able to reach us all day. And we were O.K.=20

We would spend hours building our go-carts out of scraps and then ride =
down the hill, only to find out we forgot the brakes. After running into =
the bushes a few times, we learned to solve the problem.

We did not have Playstations, Nintendo's, X-boxes, no video games at =
all, no 99 channels on cable, no video tape movies, no surround sound, =
no cell phones, no text messaging, no personal computers, no Internet or =
Internet chat rooms..........we had friends and we went outside and =
found them! =20

We fell out of trees, got cut, broke bones and teeth and there were no =
lawsuits from these accidents.

We played with worms and mud pies made from dirt, and the worms did not =
live in us forever. (My mother hated them, however.)

Made up games with sticks and tennis balls and although we were told it =
would happen, we did not poke out any eyes.=20

We rode bikes or walked to a friend's house and knocked on the door or =
rang the bell, or just yelled for them! Or we snuck out our windows at =
night and woke them up to play=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6=E2=80=A6..then went =
skinny dipping in Saint Claire=E2=80=99s Academy pool on Jackson Ave.

Local teams had tryouts and not everyone made the team. Those who didn't =
had to learn to deal with disappointment. Imagine that!!=20

The idea of a parent bailing us out if we broke the law was unheard of. =
Most of the time they sided with the law.=20

=20

I am sure you could add to the list. =20

=20

Our Assignment:

=20

To predict what our kids will say when they are 50=E2=80=A6

=20

patricia sinatra =E2=97=98 650.274.7488 (c) =E2=97=98 650.347.9488 =
=E2=97=98 <mailto:psinatra@comcast.net> psinatra@comcast.net

=20

-------------------- 62 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 15:12:38 EST
From: PeterJHazou@aol.com
Subject: Age 50 +health...

Q: What is the ideal gift to give a 50 year old?

A: a Colonoscopy.

Forgive the Public Service announcement (on this usually quite 'lite'
channel) but I have too many friends in their 50s and early 60s who have succumbed to
what is quite an easy affliction to detect early, and do something about.

If you don't know the rub, here's how it works: Polyps form (yes in the
bowel - we have to talk about these things) and go some years before becoming the
big "C" (yes - cancerous). These things are easily found and dealt with
UNLESS you ignore them / undetected for too long.

See above, the Answer.

In guy terms: you can't tell what's going on in the manifold by looking at
the exhaust pipe! You gotta go up there and have a look (ie., pay a mechanic
to do it). Gals, you have always been more sophisticated about your bodies so
you probably know this already!

....So Kyra (my wife) sezs... "What do you want for your 'big "L"'
birthday"?
I say... (See answer above). She says "well THAT'll save on wrapping paper!"

N.B.. And then every five years thereafter! (and in case you are wondering,
those "poop on the paddle" tests your Doctor might give you are very
misleading, so don't be fooled by an 'all clear' reading. Blood in the stool doesn't
show up until it is all too late). Be warned.

Sorry if some feel this is inappropriate for this channel but I am a loyal
follower of the class and the site which everyone has helped create. And I wish
everyone great health so that it may be maintained!

Final point is a little multiple choice Quiz:

1) Question: Who is responsible for your health?:

a) your spouse?
b) your mother?
c) your Doctor?
d) your self?

Answer: d), your self. The absolutely wrong answer is c), your Doctor.
Doctors can not and are not responsible for your health. You are. Fully. The
diagnostics, the analysis, the answers. Not the Doctor, so don't be fooled.
Think about it. Doctors (no matter how caring and how good their bed side
manner) can not afford the time to think about and measure up all the
interdepebdencies which make our bodies a biologic complexity. Doctors, in the role
that is ascribed to them by the system, are primarily problem solvers of specific
aspects of a situtation within the confines of the clock. Their ultimate
goal is to process and move on (avoiding patients who die on their watch,
particularly in their office - it ruins their statistics).

Apologies if I sound to preachie. Write me off if you will. But do heed
rule #1 above (this means you!) I, lperhaps like Pat Sinatra in her recent post,
worry about these things. As a kid I ate Velvitta (remeber those orange
squooshed 'cheese' sandwiches that fit into the toaster? As children of the
50s/60s, who knows what the impact will be of all that non-organic food. We are
different than our parents, who ate the same junk, in that their childhoods
before the war were inherently less processed and more healthy than the horror of
what we ate growing up in the cafeteria etc.

Final thought: be an alarmist. It is our health in question.

All the best.

Haz.

-------------------- 63 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 12:20:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Alison Rempel <cmfuzz-alison@yahoo.com>
Subject: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

A recent study found that the faster the procedure the fewer detections. So when your doctor refers you to a gaastroenterologist - ask if he's familiar with the study and can he recommend someone with a high detection rate. Here's a link...
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/16190782/
-Alison

-------------------- 64 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 16:20:06 -0500
From: Laurel Parker <lkp5@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

Healthy and organic living are no guarantees either - one of my
triathlon club mates was recently diagnosed with cancer when she got
a colonoscopy at age 50 -- long-time vegetarian, no signs of health
problems, triathlete, she did the test as one of those "I'm over 50
and I should do this test" sorts of decisions...she's doing well
after surgery and is undergoing chemo but it is a reminder that you
can't take anything for granted!

She's got a strong enough sense of self to write about it for our
local newspaper in a new monthly column called "cancer unplugged" --
see
http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061113/NEWS01/70117002
for her original article, and these other two for follow-up:

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20061220/OPINION02/312200001

http://www.theithacajournal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=2007701170308

-------------------- 65 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:32:58 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

Sorry all, despite all recent posts--the key to living long is largely
genetics, reduced alcohol consumption, reasonable amounts of exercise, and
no smoking. Genetics is the big one.

-------------------- 66 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 17:28:23 -0500
From: "Joanne" <hackenburg2003@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

I read somewhere that oregano grown on the mountains of Greece, has
curative, effects on health. Both my grandmothers lived past 100. The
oregano and a little ouzo, probably did the job.

-------------------- 67 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:45:01 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

Oregano, ouzo and probably some really tasty lamb! Yum. I always say, good health starts with a good spirit, and nothing makes my spirit sore like rack of lamb.

David Walters

-------------------- 68 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:45:22 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Re: Officially 50

There's an element to being a teacher (speaking here as a teacher who, at 8:00 p.m., is still at school grading during finals week) that makes school-year-scheduled plans particularly difficult to attend. To wit: Work and subs.

In all the other jobs I had, missing work didn't involve much more than arranging for someone to cover for me during my absence. Now, admittedly, I never had a job that entailed any responsibility, nobody would pay me to be responsible, Lord knows. But it wasn't particularly difficult to take the time off and dive back in when I returned.

Teachers, though, have to arrange for subs. In some cases (fortunately not mine), teachers have to contact and arrange for their own subs, and some districts without strong unions even disallow non-illness absences to be taken as "sick days".

Secondly, as you all recall vividly from high school, substitutes rarely manage to complete the lesson plans we use, for any one of a variety of reasons. These reasons include, but are not limited to, student revolts, personal phone calls (we have banned two subs from our district for making phone calls during substantial amounts of class time), lack of subject content knowledge (I've often subbed for a math teacher during my planning hour, and while students may like having me in class, they know they are on their own when it comes to asking questions); the latest issue of People Magazine (see personal phone calls), student apathy....

Because of this, we can't ask subs to continue with whatever it is we are doing in class. Often, this is a Push Play day--push play on the video/dvd player and have the students take notes we neither need them to take nor have any intention of grading, and which students--realizing it's just pointless busy work--rarely take seriously.

It would be nice if we could get our students to also call in sick during their class time, but school boards often frown upon that suggestion (although 100% of students I polled liked the idea...but they don't/can't vote for school board, so it's kind of like the House voting to tell Bush they don't like the war).

I'm not derogating subs--it isn't their fault, and many subs I've had have done a serviceable job while here.

When we return, we have to deal with the misbehavior of the students as reported by the sub, wondering whose side is more accurate. We also have to pick up where we left off--which, if it occurs over a weekend, may be 5 days previously. Your own high school experience will remind you of a student's ability to retain information over 5 days, including a weekend, during which time all previous schoolwork mysteriously disappears down the Black Hole of Memories.

In other words, for teachers, the school year is a decidedly unpleasant time to have to leave. While the break is welcome, the workload upon return is daunting.

Now, if it doesn't make a difference for you folks working in the real world when we have our reunion (I would think it would generally be more convenient to parents to have summer reunions anyway--either easier to bring them with you and not have them miss school, or leave them with friends/family back home, or camp...), I'd pleadingly request we find a way to accomodate the many of us who teach and come from out of town. I'd love to attend Jeff's event, but with June 2 being the weekend before our finals, would find it impossible to take time off to get back for it.

Jeff, a teacher himself, would certainly sympathize.

And I love the idea of the Mystery event! Do I get to spend 7 minutes in a dark closet with someone? :-)

Greg

-------------------- 69 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:50:35 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Age 50 +health...

True and humorously put, Pete! My brother Jeff had an exam a couple of years ago (46!) and they found non-malignant polyps. His operation may have saved him from worse.

We don't want to think about it, but it's time, boys and girls, to start letting people check inside the engine block.

Greg

-------------------- 70 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 01:51:56 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: health & "ya got to make the morning last..."

Good article!

Greg

-------------------- 71 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 23:22:08 -0500
From: "Keith Kelley" <keith_a_kelley@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: Age 50 +health...

I'm glad I am still 48!!

Laura

-------------------- 72 --------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:33:03 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: Stop this poop, now

It's not like "50" is the end of it all..... DON'T think like an insurance
underwriter!

Let's not become morose about this. It's just another year, another
test---like the annual mammogram (where the baseline is 40), the pap smear
(starts in your 20s and sometimes sooner), and a PSA test (and also don't
forget to feel your testicles carefully, gentlemen---no matter what age.)

At least with a colonoscopy they give you narcotics so going under isn't so
bad (the next day or so is a bit rough, however). Fentanyl is a wonder
drug, really. I had my gallbladder removed and I know.

Besides, it's just a baseline. You need the stool test annually which, in
my opinion, is really disgusting. Yuck! Who invented this sh*t anyway?
(Pun intended.)

Go out, run a mile, lift a few weights, and have some nookey--this keeps you
young (at least at heart. Just don't look in the mirror.) And do get a face
lift--botox, derm abrasion, and don't forget the Cialis---36 hours of non
stop action. You'll feel just like 30 (except for the aching back when you
wake up and that blue phenomena....)

Take two of these** and please--- don't call me in the morning.

**Baby aspirin and omega 3 fatty acids.

-------------------- 73 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:52:24 +0000 (GMT)
From: faheyfam@optonline.net
Subject: Another Topic

Is anyone else out there sick of hearing the story again and again about the family that was required to deplane because they were not successful in getting their 3 year old in a seatbelt so that the plane could take off? I know, switch the channel - but truly, why are so many other issues being brought into this (how to discipline your child, the complexity and reasons for tantrums, would the supernanny be beneficial, what if the real reason that they were removed from the plane was the fact that the child's crying was disruptive? (which was NOT the reason!) Simple fact - a plane cannot take off unless passengers are seatbelted - same rule for every passenger on board. I cannot understand why it would even be a debate that the schedules of all of the other passengers and crew members on board, and the responsibility and reputation of the airline (which I believe is supposed to be to make every good and reasonable effort to stay within the basic schedule that they are given unless there are extentuating circumstances, such as weather, mechanical issues, etc.) should be disregarded because one passenger refused a seatbelt. I've raised 3 boys and believe me, have dealt with my share of temper tantrums. Why does this story apparently fascinate so many people? I don't get it! Does anyone else agree, or disagree? Maybe I'm missing something!

Anne

P.S. Pat, I always enjoy your e-mails. You are so good at presenting things both concisely and in a humorous way!!

-------------------- 74 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:59:45 -0500
From: Laurel Parker <lkp5@cornell.edu>
Subject: Re: Another Topic

Anne, I'm with you. My boys are away at school now, but the temper
tantrums never really disappeared -- they just took different forms
as they grew older. I don't know that I ever had the attitude that
the rest of the world was supposed to revolve around my kids -- if a
tantrum started in the store, restaurant, church, movie etc. I got up
and took them outside and away from wherever we were. Once the
audience was gone, the tantrum disappeared. My kids knew I wouldn't
hesitate to do the same on a plane, so fortunately I never had to
face this situation -- they liked to fly!

Maybe I'm not being fair to the family in this situation, but I sided
with the airlines on this one. It's too bad they are the ones getting
the bad press, not the parents. I don't believe this is the first
time, either, that airlines have had to remove disruptive passengers
(of any age) so a flight can take off -- who is making such a media
circus out of this?

Laurel

-------------------- 75 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:07:05 -0500
From: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
Subject: Re: Another Topic

Bill Cosby had a great routine on this very subject.

Jim K

-------------------- 76 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 07:25:23 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: RE: Another Topic

Whew. I am very glad we changed the topic.

-------------------- 77 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:56:23 -0800
From: "Patricia Sinatra" <psinatra@comcast.net>
Subject: Stunning pictures http://thefairest.info/top.html

=20

I won=E2=80=99t send this kind of stuff if you don=E2=80=99t want me to =
in the future, so let me know. =20

=20

If you click on this link, you will find some of the most outstanding =
environmental pictures I have seen in a long time. Alan, I thought Rita =
Chang might appreciate them. I saved many of them because I think they =
make excellent desktop backgrounders.

=20

Some of them are really stunning. You may have to cut and paste into =
your browser.

=20

Pat=20

=20

http://thefairest.info/top.html

=20

patricia sinatra =E2=97=98 650.274.7488 (c) =E2=97=98 650.347.9488 =
=E2=97=98 <mailto:psinatra@comcast.net> psinatra@comcast.net

=20

-------------------- 78 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 10:46:01 -0800 (PST)
From: jan sidebotham <sidebothamj@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Stunning pictures http://thefairest.info/top.html

Thanks, Pat. I just looked through them, and they really are beautiful. Nice break in the work day. -- Jan

-------------------- 79 --------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:41:05 -0500
From: "Joanne" <hackenburg2003@verizon.net>
Subject: Re: Age 50 +health...

I hesitated to tell you, I was born in 1958. I immigrated in 1967, with a
birthdate someone made up in immigration. (3/3/57) I'm happy to be here. I
was put into 5th grade in Dobbs Ferry schools. I really don't belong with
you guys in the HHs of 1975, but boy I would have missed this lovely
discussion on colonoscopies, had they'd just gotten my birthdate right!
Thank the beaurocrats for that............. Pat Thanks for the lovely
photos!
Joanne
Ps I'll still hang around with you old folks
real BD 1/22/58

Joanne Liakos
Sandgrain Sec
1050 Franklin Ave. Suite 104
Garden City NY 11543
(914)381-3444
(800)500-5008 home office
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Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 17:43:36 EST
From: Sselklub@aol.com
Subject: Re: Age 50. Q: what is the perfect gift for a 50 year old?

Peter:
Yes, you are 100% correct. I need to have a c this year.
My husband, Steve, has had 2. The prep stinks - you are put out for the
procedure.
You get DRUGS!!! , then you go home and take a nap.
I think I knew some people who used to like that sort of thing.
I will let you know if it was easier or more difficult than childbirth.
But instinct tells me it will be easier....

Sue

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 04:37:05 +0000
From: dmcquickly@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Age 50 +health...

Joanne, Happy Birthday (belated, but you can thank the beaurocrats for that).

Greg

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Date: Tue, 30 Jan 2007 11:46:14 EST
From: WJK1957@aol.com
Subject: sad news

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, however, our underclassmen and good
friend Eddie Caccia lost his father, Ben to cancer this morning. My condolences
to you bro and your family. Billy K.

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Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2007 19:14:54 -0500
From: <afine@art-cetera.com>
Subject: One of our parents on ABC Action News!

Please visit the welcome page of our site and choose between a Windows Media or a Quicktime file to see a recent ABC Action news story about one of our parents.

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Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2007 18:09:16 -0800
From: "lfrancis" <louise.francis@comcast.net>
Subject: Remembering the UFW boycott

Classmates & Friends of the Class of '75:
My 6th grade son's class studies farming intensively (I got to live with
them on a no-fossil-fuel farm for 4 days and do farmwork by hand!) and
now they are learning about Cesar Chavez. They have invited me to talk
to them about being a teenage activist urging shoppers to boycott Hills
stores (I think that's the name) because Hills stocked Teamster iceberg
lettuce and green grapes.
I'm in the process of trying to do some research to supplement my
sketchy memory of that time.
If anyone -- Jill P., Robin Tucker, others? -- recalls details about our
involvement, please email me about them!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks.
I'm trying to recall things like: Didn't we do a slide show one night
in the library (I do remember the Don McLean song)? Was this a
Conservation Club project? How many months did we stage our protests (my
recollection is that we did nights and weekends in the fall of 73/winter
74 months)? Does anyone remember the name of the woman from the UFW who
joined us at some point (and got taken away by the police although not
formally arrested)? Other details of interest?
Thanks,
Louise Francis

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 03:15:18 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

Hi Louise,
I remember going over to that supermarket... on Central Avenue I think, and picketing. We used to go every weekend. The person who was totally involved with this was Darlene Marks. She ended up, I think, interning with the UFW for several years after this. I think she would know just about every facet of that struggle. I did some UFW support work in the 12th grade, going down to their Upper West side headquarters to help out.

I actually worked on their strawberry organizing drive about 8 years ago here, working with the San Francisco Labor Council.

David

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 12:05:46 +0000 (GMT)
From: faheyfam@optonline.net
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

Louise:

I wish I had been (but unforunately wasn't) involved in the protests at the time, but when we were in Colorado I was friendly with a woman who herself was a migrant mexican worker (in many different locations, I think mainly in California) during the 60's and 70's. She managed to work her way through nursing school, met and married her husband (Dr. Rauzi, our physician in Colorado) - never forgot her roots, amazing stories to tell, huge on outreach (headed up social justice committees at our school/church in Colorado, St. Mary's). I don't know if I can still track her down but will try - I'm sure she'd have great input. I'll keep you posted.

Anne

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 07:55:12 -0500
From: Jim Katzenstein <jimk@starkaywhite.com>
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

It is great to see that Class is still very politically motivated. I
for one have been involved in the fight in Rockland County against
RLUIPA- Religious Land Use and Institutionalized Persons Act. This
truly insidious law enacted by Congress in June of 2000 basically gives
any Religious group the right to build wherever and whatever they want
even if it is contrary to zoning and environmental laws.

Don't be surprised if you never heard of RLUIPA because 98% of Americans
havn't! How Congress got this by everyone is beyond me but then again,
Prohibition was passed in 1920 and took 12 years to stop.

I hope all of you look into RLUIPA because this is totally opposite of
Separation of Church and State. Don't think it can't happen to you
because it is happening just 45 minutes North of NYC. If this law isn't
stopped we could end up just like Iran.

Jim K

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Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2007 20:43:01 EST
From: NYCFD1@aol.com
Subject: (no subject)

Dear Class,

Last year this time, i announced that my daughter Kim got engaged, that
lasted about 9 months before they broke it off, well im happy to say that she is
getting married to the same guy, next week,!!! Small wedding, immediate
family

Ray

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 13:14:44 +0000 (GMT)
From: valcivitanogill@optonline.net
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Ray,

Congratulations. All the best to you and your family.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 09:02:24 EST
From: SAPSAM75@aol.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Congratulations Ray!

Enjoy!!

Sandy

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:18:38 -0500
From: "Earle MacHardy" <uggman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

I remember picketting a store on central avenue near Korvettes, which is
long gone (Korvettes that is). I don't remember the store name, but Hill
maybe right. I seem to remember that Becca (or maybe Rebecca <last name?>)
was helping to organize that (she signed me up I think) and I am not sure it
was an official Conservation club project, but several people in the group
were setting it up. It might have been official. There were not that many
people picketing every moment (there was a signup sheet to keep someone
there at all reasonable times). We handed out flyers about the problem to
the shoppers. Not all reactions were friendly as you might remember, but
indifference or avoidance was the usual one. Sorry I can't remember more
details about the organization, but I think there was a slide show about it
in order to generate interest. Your memory (the song) is much better than
mine. I was not there when the "arrest" happened, I was doing it on
saturdays. I had to take the bus there because I could not drive yet (being
only 15 and in ninth grade). It was pretty low key when I was there, just
handing out flyers and talking to people about it.

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Date: Thu, 15 Feb 2007 19:26:31 -0500
From: "Earle MacHardy" <uggman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

Reading the other responses, I remember Darlene being a big part of it too.
She was there a few times when I was doing it.

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 01:17:53 +0000
From: dave.walters@comcast.net
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

Rebecca Gutman, I think.

David

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 10:30:37 -0500
From: "O'Mara, Karen \(US\)" <Karen.OMara@PoloRalphLauren.com>
Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi Ray,

Congratulations and I wish them the very best. I hope you have a
wonderful time celebrating.

All the best,
Karen

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 17:38:26 +0000 (GMT)
From: faheyfam@optonline.net
Subject: Re: RE: (no subject)

Congratulations Ray -all the best to you all of your family. What a happy time!

Anne (Kapfer) Fahey

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Date: Fri, 16 Feb 2007 20:23:54 -0500
From: "Earle MacHardy" <uggman@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Remembering the UFW boycott

Yes, that's her. She was big on the McGovern campaign too. I remember that
as well.

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 14:10:25 +0000
From: "Nicole Cirrincione" <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: (no subject)

Hi Ray -- I hope you do not mind my candor, but isn't Kim on the young
side? Your email just reminded me of a repeat of my own teenage years. And
it brings back BAD memories. Hate to sound so pessimistic, but if only I
hadn't made that very same mistake. I had been engaged, and then right
before the marriage cancelled it, because I knew it was wrong. (Not to
mention, my parents having a fit or two.) Then later my insecurity came
shining through and I ended up marrying the jerk. Of course, the only good
thing from the marriage was my now 30 year old daughter, but he was the
worst father I have ever met in my life. I certainly hope that Kim isn't
making the same mistake I did. When I look back, it was one of the worst
mistakes I could have made. Please, Please do not take this the wrong way,
but marriage at a young age scares me to death. Best of luck,

Nicole

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 12:15:01 EST
From: NYCFD1@aol.com
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Dear Nicole,

OOOOOOOOOoh yeas , ive had this conversation with her trying to beat it into
her brain, not to do the same crap i did you did and a whole lot of other
people,i have a feeling this wedding, goes a lot deeper than love or baby can go
, i think there is a dwi involved with her fiance and some how she was in
the middle, so in order not to testify against him she's marrying him,cause
then she cant testify against him, that's my theory , sounds far fetched, but
if its not a baby and its not , i don't want to wait 3 years, what else can
it be? right? I tried Nik, trust me i tried,but she'll learn the hard way

Ray

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Date: Sat, 17 Feb 2007 23:26:29 +0000
From: "Nicole Cirrincione" <ncirrinc@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: (no subject)

Unfortunately, there are times, we must allow them to feel the burn and then
learn.
Who knows, good things sometimes, do happen when we least expect.
Warm regards, Nicole